Evan Dorkin ([info]evandorkin) wrote,
@ 2007-08-26 16:06:00
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I Keep Forgetting: 20 Years Ago This Month
Pirate Corp$! #1 came out from Eternity Comics.

Which means I've been doing this for roughly 21 years (starting with the ten car pile-up that was Phigments, 1986), part-time and then full-time.

Cripes.

I received my copies of PC$! #1 at the San Diego Comic Con where I was setting up for the first time, and I remember being so disappointed with the comic -- why, I don't know, it's not like I expected some Fed Ex guys to re-draw/improve  the pages between the time it got to the printers -- that I sat down by a table in an aisle and came near to tears. I know, aw, poor little baby. Suck it up, pussy. What can I say. For some reason I was expecting something better. Seeing it all in print like that was a brick to the brain, I was not up to snuff, the colors were eye-blistering, the inks thin, hesitant and shoddy. Good lettering by Kurt Hathaway, though.

I knew what solid, professional work was and I knew what I did didn't come close. If the early P.C$! material has anything going for it, it's energy and perhaps personality and some fun in the dialog and perhaps the plot. But the chops on display were amateurish and rough, to say the least, passable only in comparison to much of what was being offered in the post-Turtles deluge of small-press spec drek.

I considered not reprinting the PC$!/HP material from the Eternity days when we started the trade collections, but I felt weird starting the reprints with a second volume, and hiding the material. Sure, it's inferior to what came later, but I dunno....maybe I should have excised it. It's not a great introduction to the series -- at shows I always recommend people start with volume two and then read three and the Bummer Trilogy stand-alone comic, then go back to the first book if they liked the series enough to pick up the early, rough-looking stuff.  The early SLG stuff isn't all there, but it starts coming together and gets better.

Anyway, my friends Brian and Tony, who started up Eternity, we're planning a 20th Anniversary night out with some drinks and probably some late-night diner talk. That's pretty much where a lot of my early work came from, PC$! material, Milk and Cheese, sitting around jawboning at the offcie and then drinks or a show and a diner in Manhattan or Brooklyn. Sometimes there was the added attraction of booze.

Okay, just wanted to mark that. I never do the anniversary thing, mainly because I can't ready anything in time, partly because I don't really do anything for real things like my birthday or a project's debut. But, warts and all, messy at is, unsuccessful as it's been, I have a special place in my comic book career heart for PC$!/HP, and so there you go. If any of you have been with me since PC$#1, well, you're crazy. Buy yourself a drink, crazy person.

P.S. I plotted an issue of HP on the way up to Toronto. Forgot all about it until now. About Halby getting his tooth replaced after what happened in #6, from, hmmm, 1993 -??? Cripes. Anyway, he goes to a very large industrial building where the student dental facilities are, he'ds getting the tooth done for free. Things don't go well, the place is filled with shady, surreal businesses and a shoddy, start-up group home for mental patients, he can't find the dental clinic and I'm sure if he does they're all incompetent weirdos. Much confusion and lots of set pieces in strange offices and operating rooms and hallways and stairwells and elevators. Hmmmm. A bit like the Supermarket issue in tone? Too much like it? Dunno.

Like it's going to get written and drawn, anyway.


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[info]pastemachine
2007-08-26 08:57 pm UTC (link)
that sounds really funny.

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[info]joshuasmeaton
2007-08-26 09:27 pm UTC (link)
21 years. That's pretty awesome.

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[info]craigjclark
2007-08-26 09:32 pm UTC (link)
Golly. Time to pull out my Hectic Planet trades and read through them again, I guess.

And for the record, I started with the first book and had no problem getting sucked into the story and the characters.

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[info]lois2037
2007-08-26 11:26 pm UTC (link)
"Like it's going to get written and drawn, anyway." So you're what... just going to taunt us? *sigh*

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[info]pupdog311
2007-08-27 12:40 am UTC (link)
I got introduced to PC$! in 91 or so probably, reading a friend's copies of those early Eternity issues, and it was that crazy energy and spark to the story and dialog that grabbed me. Whatever shortcomings you saw/see in the art never even occurred to me. Sure, later stuff looked different, but that early stuff just plain 'worked', if you ask me.

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[info]spasmsproject
2007-08-27 01:03 am UTC (link)
Congratulations on the anniversary. PC$ wasn't nearly as bad as you thought, and you made the right decision in sticking with comics. You're a good writer, a good artist, and a terrific storyteller. I don't read much in the way of comics these days, but I make a point of reading yours. Actually, anybody involved in Instant Piano, I will take the time to read. You're all great. =)

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[info]puberty_rocks
2007-08-27 02:32 am UTC (link)
I picked up the first volume first actually (and you didn't say a thing to warn me off and gave the standard Milk&Cheese autograph). I really liked the art on it and it was interesting to see the shades of what was to come in terms of your later more developed style. Sure there are some jerky portions to the story but I enjoyed the overall package/arc/whatever. I'll try out the other volumes (especially now that I can afford to!)

Maybe I was just pleased with how clear the art was despite all the action.

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[info]evandorkin
2007-08-27 03:23 am UTC (link)
I tend to point people to the second book if they ask me where to start. If you grab a book of mine and don't give me a reason to put my foot in the door so to speak. Or mouth, for that matter), I'm not that harsh on my work to start ragging on it without provocation. Usually.

Glad you liked it. A few people picked up the first volume at TCAF, which was nice to see. We only sold one copy of volume two (iirc), and no copies of volume three moved at all. Dunno what that means, exactly. But I'm happy anyone still tries the series this many years later.

And actually, the standard HP vol. 1 autograph goes with a Mr. Blue doodle. Dunno why I dished out a M&C image for you. Habit, maybe. I know I drew a few Mr. Blues at TCAF, two or three of the stowaways. I don't quite remember how to draw those guys on model anymore. Weird.

Anyway, volume two and three get better, imho.

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[info]ronthered
2007-08-27 02:34 am UTC (link)
Well, when I get home tonight, I'm going to dig out that PC$ I picked up those 20 years ago, pour myself a drink, and toast you. I don't care what you say, I thought it was great back then, I think its great right now.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-27 10:14 am UTC (link)
I though PC/HP got better as it went along, but think that even those early issues were pretty good. For me, the dialog and plot are the most important thing in a comic book. (Hmm, come to think of it, maybe this means i ought to be reading more of those books without pictures in...)

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[info]monkeyman
2007-08-27 01:11 pm UTC (link)
Have you ever read any of Piers Anthony's Prostho Plus? It's a futuristic dentist novel, and actually fairly amusing ... your potential plotline just made me think of it.

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[info]evandorkin
2007-08-29 02:04 am UTC (link)
Haven't read any Anthony. Didn't he do the Xanth books or something like that? Something with lots of puns iirc. For someone who tosses off too many puns in his own work, I generally don't like puns. Maybe I'm confusing him with (Robert?) Asprin (sp?). Haven't read him, either. Probably got the names wrong, it's been some time since I paid any serious attention to SF authors. JHU used to carry paperbacks back in the early days -- as did the shop's earlier incarnation, the Fantastic Store (get it?), so I used to know about a lot of SF/fantasy authors (without actually having read them). I don't know where I'm going with this.

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[info]monkeyman
2007-08-29 08:20 am UTC (link)
No, you're right, and I don't really like his Xanth books much -- and all his work has a very distinct style that takes some getting used to. But his sci-fi is a lot easier to swallow than his fantasy. I just happened to think of that book because there aren't a whole lot of sci-fi references to dentistry out there.

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[info]plattcave
2007-08-27 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Wow, I guess that means I've been reading your stuff for about 19 years -- or half my life!

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[info]evandorkin
2007-08-28 12:26 am UTC (link)
Gevalt!

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[info]zenmonkeykstop
2007-08-27 04:56 pm UTC (link)
That reminded me of my favourite comic line ever - "Fuck him up, Tim! His views are invalid!"

Ah Deadline, where is your like today.

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[info]schism_schasm
2007-08-27 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Mine too.

As beautifully formed as HP#6 is, a return to the kind of non-sequiters (the walking root beer and deli counter triplets still crack me up) we saw in the super-market issue would be no bad thing at all.

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[info]conanlibrarian
2007-08-28 09:44 am UTC (link)
You once talked about(probably hating the subject) about writing your stuff and letting other artists, not as good as you, but a lot faster, draw it. Do you think you could do that with the new Hectic Planet issue?

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[info]evandorkin
2007-08-29 02:05 am UTC (link)
No.

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[info]hemlock_martini
2007-08-28 08:07 pm UTC (link)
Hectic Planet is awesome. Congratulations on two decades of creativity.

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[info]evandorkin
2007-08-29 02:06 am UTC (link)
Thanks. I

Your icon made me laugh. Daleks are just kind of always funny.

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[info]hemlock_martini
2007-08-29 02:14 am UTC (link)
Thanks, I agree! I wish I could say I made the icon, but I ganked it from someone.

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[info]spook_town
2007-08-29 04:19 pm UTC (link)
I suppose that it's been long enough now that I can tell you that I opted not to purchase PIRATE CORP$ #1 because my impression gained by a cursory examination was that it kinda looked like OMEGA MEN, which was a total deal-breaker. Thankfully, that proved not to be a fair assessment, but I wouldn't find that out until a couple of years later. Come to think of it, I didn't much like the first M&C strip, either. And yet, you have your own display facing the front door here at the shop. It's a crazy world, ain't it?

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