Evan Dorkin ([info]evandorkin) wrote,

2009 Eisner Nominees

My initial, off the cuff thoughts on this year's list:

Lots of people whose work I admire and even like. Sacco, Ware, Barry, pretty strong mainstream names in there for the usual mainstream-dominated categories, not too many clunkers or personal judge-favored fluff I noticed, I found this year's list pretty interesting and credible. At least, not sick-inducing, which is welcome for a change. FOlks will argue and sneer, but I do think this year is easier on the brain than many a year.

The humor category has some real low-selling, obscure titles that only cartoonists seem to read/recognize. Pretty interesting, usually there are some "tweener" titles like Bone or The Goon in there, genre titles with humorous overtones that have stronger sales and followings and usually murder the competition in the voting Not knocking that or those titles, just saying. Rare to see actual all-humor titles, and nothing by major names that I recall. The Herbie Archives nomination in the category rankles a bit, it's old work, and I don't like seeing collected work up against new humor work, even when it was my own work (The second Dork collection got a humor nomination, and it seemed "wrong", as it was old work up against new. That's what collected editions categories are for, and Herbie did cop a nom in one of those reprint categories, so -? Still, if it's gotta be, better it be Herbie).

Is Thor really that great? Really? I'm just wondering, haven't read it, can't bring myself to. Thor? Okay, I'll have to take someone's word on it. Verily and all that.

Holy shit, the newspaper strip archival category is a clusterfuck of awesome. I mean, really. I knock out Little Nemo only because it's volume two and there's stiff competition...Feiffer, Gray, Maldin...the Sickles book...hmmm. That Maldin collection is a beautiful piece of work featuring beautiful work. I may have to go with that, and Covey for designing it. The Sickles book is terrific as well. Wow. This category is where my comics heart lies these days, its the only category in which I own all the titles nominated, so, nice to see.

No love for Love and Rockets vol 1? Really? Wow. How we can so often take Los Bros for granted is beyond me.

Who the fuck can afford to read everything on this list? More and more the better read/better selling seem to have a better shot, because numbers on some of the obscure titles are so, so low nowadays. At least, that's my worry. But that's how awards often swing. Still, a lot of interesting, good and sometimes exceptional stuff on the list. You could have a worse library on a desert island.

On a personal note: Congratulations to Jill Thompson for her nomination for her painted work on the Magic Trixie series. And to Scott Allie and Sierra Hahn for their project(s) nominations. Congrats to SLG for the Chumble Spuzz nom. Congrats to Andi Watson for his nomination.

Tom Spurgeon has the list of nominees here at the Comics Reporter. 
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[info]kingtycoon

April 7 2009, 20:41:26 UTC 3 years ago

It's kind of weird how the comics awards are named - or anyway were originally named after guys living at the time. I imagine Kirby or Eisner sitting around at a banquet muttering "I hated that kid's book" while some publishers are giving away an award in their name. What other industries 'honor' their best/brightest by naming awards after them humously?

[info]evandorkin

April 7 2009, 21:02:18 UTC 3 years ago

Understand. As I'm sure you realize, this is an entertainment/art industry unlike any other. Everything "nice" or "for comics" has been done on the cheap, on the fly, for nothing or for a pittance, usually just for the sake of doing it. Our awards programs are much like some of our comics, initially done -- and perhaps still done -- out of love, out of need, perhaps a desire to be part of something, to give back, to socialize and recognize. No one gets any calls from their agent after winning an Eisner of Harvey or whatever the heck telling them they have received a slew of offers for projects, that they've lined up thirty interviews with the media, that their page rate has gone up and their award-winning book has shot up in sales. This is the small-time, welcome to it. They did what they did to honor Eisner and Kirby and Kurtzman, who was dead, iirc, when that honor was bestowed. And after the Kirby Awards was dismantled by in-fighting and horseshit. Welcome to it. There used to be something called the Shazam awards, and some other ones that died on the vine. We didn't have awards, for good or bad, for much of the medium's existence. What can you do?

Anyway, feel better! We have the Doug Wright awards for under-appreciated Canadians, the Bill Finger for writers, the Russ Manning for newcomers, and they're dead. Happy? You should be, because they're dead because of you! I don't even know what that means, I just liked typing it. So. We should kill whoever we wish to name an award after from here on in, so that they're not alive to be honored, and so that they're stopped. Let's have a Claremont Award for dangling plotlines, the Neal Adams award for histrionic character acting, the Roy Thomas Trophy for self-aggrandizement, and whatever others you folks wish to kick in for the sake of internet snarkiness.

Meaning, yes, I agree with you. It's weird. Comics is am weird. Welcome to it, again, and again. What would you rather have them called, the "Not Money, But Nifty" awards, and the "Congrats! Your Friends Voted For You!" awards? Buh-haw haw. It's funny, because it's comics!

I just finished a drawing and am tired. Hence the crazy post. Wheeeee!

[info]elio

April 8 2009, 03:44:32 UTC 3 years ago

I always thought awards were just something tangible parents of the comic artist/writer could digest and be proud of (for once). My Dad will never appreciate my line quality or brush pen work, but winning an Eisner or any award would give him some perspective that art school tuition wasn't flushed down the toilet.

[info]evandorkin

April 8 2009, 04:21:45 UTC 3 years ago

I think making a living as an artist is that tangible thing most parents go by. Not saying parents aren't happy or proud of their offspring for being nominated or for winning an award, but...it's still an award you have to explain to the folks back home. Probably more than once. Some trophy in High School or a bowling competition or getting mentioned in Cappy Dick in the Sunday papers probably registered higher back in the day.

[info]kingtycoon

April 8 2009, 17:35:30 UTC 3 years ago

I have no conflicting feelings about comics.

Were you drawing M&C you meanie?!

Haha it's all good it just occurred to me what the story might be like if there was an award named after you (not exactly You Mr. D - just you) how'd you like that? It seems like it'd be a heck of a thing, you'd be awful proud right up until some jackass got the nomination and you're thinking - "They think this jerk's as good as me?"

[info]evandorkin

April 8 2009, 17:56:39 UTC 3 years ago

Re: I have no conflicting feelings about comics.

I forgot to post this anecdote related to the Eisners--

I had reason to walk up to the podium at several of the Eisner ceremonies, a few of these treks resulted in my babbling semi-coherently for a while to the audience. Eisner was on stage at these occasions. On one of these occasions I told an anecdote about meeting Eisner. Etc, etc, whatever.

Cut to a few years later, on the CBDLF cruise, I'm at Eisner's table for dinner. At some point in the conversation, he asks me, "Just what is it that you do?" Not in an insulting way, he realized that after sort of meeting me several times and my yammering at the awards ceremonies, he had no clue as to who I was or what I did. Meaning, he just "knew" me as some schmuck who won a few awards with his name on them.

Meaning, don't think anyone's paying attention, they have other things to do.

And a Dorkin/Dork Award would obviously have to be awarded for something not very nice. Or downright stupid. I shudder to think.

Anonymous

April 9 2009, 23:26:53 UTC 3 years ago

Just for the record (and I guess this makes me one of those "Something is wrong on the internet!" people), Kurtzman was still alive when the Harvey Awards were started. I remember there was this thing about Kurtzman winning an Eisner one year, and then Eisner winning a Harvey the next (the joke would work better if both awards went by the last name...).

Eisner also won several Eisners, and really, is that a stacked deck or what? I mean, I'm sure he deserved them and all...

BobH

[info]evandorkin

April 10 2009, 04:37:44 UTC 3 years ago

Eisner lost a bunch of Eisners, as well. That's where things do get weird, nominated for an award named after you. Also, some folks win because of status and reputation and who has more friends and how the votes split, not always because they "deserved" them. I didn't deserve most of the awards I've won. That's not false anything, that's a fact. I voted against myself on a number of occasions because I just thought it was too ludicrous. There's a little self-loathing in there, I'm sure, but...me over Jaime Hernandez? Who booked that match? Screw job!

[info]lois2037

April 7 2009, 20:59:18 UTC 3 years ago

I usually go over to the big comics store (around here, it's Cosmic Monkey) and look through as many of the nominees as I can find, which is usually all of them. The danger of that, of course, is that a few will inevitably want to come home with me. I sure can't buy them all, especially the archival collections, though eventually they will find their way to the old homestead, I'm sure. And in my opinion Andi Watson should win in any category he's nominated.

[info]evandorkin

April 7 2009, 21:03:55 UTC 3 years ago

Library!

Or, do what I do. Vote for your friends, and against those you despise because they suck, or have awful personalities, or make more money than you. That's most of the writing and artist categories left blank right there. Ha ha, I kid because I hate!

[info]lois2037

April 7 2009, 21:11:05 UTC 3 years ago

Yeah, well everyone makes more money than I do! XD And I kind of do what you do with the voting... I always leave lots of blanks. I'm just glad ComiCraft is not nominated for best lettering -- that always makes me happy.

I certainly take advantage of the library to look through those fabulous archives, but I really love having the few we own so I can look through them whenever I want to. They have a very comforting effect on me.

Anonymous

April 8 2009, 04:58:12 UTC 3 years ago

Aside from when I was a judge, that's how I vote.

[info]odessasteps

April 8 2009, 15:11:16 UTC 3 years ago

I can't seem to get worked about these anymore.

Lots of good stuff. Some good stuff didn't get nominated. Some stuff I didn't read did get nominated. Some nominations made me scratch my head.

Nowadays, I am just happy for my friends that got nominated and hope they didn't get nominated in the same category, so I don't have to choose between them when I vote.

That is all said as someone who usually skips the Eisner ceremony to instead go to TJ to see LUCHA. Won't be doing it this year, as San Diegans I know have warned not to cross the border. Masked guys doing flippy-doos isn't worth potentially being kidnapped or shot.

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