Evan Dorkin ([info]evandorkin) wrote,
@ 2006-02-27 18:19:00
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Consider this a space holder for an eventual update/report on the New York Comic Con, which was pretty much the big, dumb, crazy monster mess of a show I expected, only messier, as I'm sure you've doubtless heard/read about.

From my personal POV, the show itself was actually nothing spectacular. It was just a con. No better, no worse, as far as the content and exhibitors went, as compared to other larger-scale shows. The fact that NY actually/finally had a decently-programmed Wizard-style muscular comics show with guests who can put asses in seats and cash in the till seems to have made some people feel like the second coming has arrived, and it brought action figures and Mila Jovovich along with it. But if you've done even only a few shows of some variety, this really wasn't anything out of the ordinary -- except when compared to other NYC shows of this type, the stuffed but intimate hotel shows of yore, the awful Greenberg moneygrabs or the cruddy Big Apple flea market shows of today (including the National, a Big Apple show on steroids that somehow still manages to have nothing interesting going on unless you're 12 or think like a 12 year-old). Exhibits, sloppy dealers booths, backpacks, some costumes, a few scantily-clad women, a schmuck shouting about deals, lots of toys, PR panels where there's no real discussion of antyhing, movies, lines. No molds broken, and none expected.

The show differed in size (although it wasn't anything like the BEA -- organized by the same promoters -- or, according to folks, the last Wonder Con), the mistakes and the amount of people turned away and turned off. Pissed off people and mishaps gets hearts pounding and modems racing, which means hubbub and noise. But when you boil the failures and successes down, it was really just a comic book convention. And it wasn't San Diego, depsite how some folks might be acting. Not by far, both for good and for bad. The NYCC said more about how lousy all-inclusive comic shows have been in the immediate NYC area since god knows when, rather than anything progessive about itself as a show (I've been hearing good things about Wonder Con -- a show I loathed -- turning itself around this year in an aggressive manner...of course, they also had overflow and had to turn people away...). Which is all fine, really. A whale of a mess show with things to make the punters and exhibitors and dealers happy is fine and all you can expect from a mega-show based around top superhero talent and movie people. You don't expect intimacy, revelation, insight or anything you might get from a small press show or an old-fashioned gymnasium or hotel con. You expect -- and perhaps demand -- bluster, press releases posing as panels, toys, a certain smell, dirty lonmg boxes of unsellable crap, overpriced Golden Age books, some jerk on a megaphone, loud video monitors, bootleg DVDs (though they squelched a lot of that here), major screw-ups (only, yeesh!), cluelessness, a backpack or three to the face and body, and the sense you survived a show rather than experienced it.

I had a really good time, myself, because the problems of the show never touched me. So, no personal axe to grind here, I had fun, screw you, pal. Several folks who might have spent money on my stuff never got inside, but I'm sure they felt worse about it than I did, and I sold some pages and did okay considering I haven't put a book out of my own stuff in several years. For me it was really a social event, I got to see folks from SLG I haven't seen in some time, see a few professionals I haven't seen since I stopped doing shows like SD, Pittsburgh, etc, I bunkered in the SLG camp and got to avoid most of the mess, people I don't like, and the backpack brigades. Emily played with toys and pulled t-shirts out of boxes and stole stuffed animals, she had a good enough time on Friday that we brought her back on Sunday. People were friendly, things were fine, nothing went wrong for us. We had Exhibitor badges and all was well.

There was, however, a constant sense of something going on, a nervous electricity, of people waiting for other shoes to drop. A buzz arose Friday, with people talking about Saturday looking like a storm heading in -- and there was nothing to be done about it. But the storm, if one wqas inside and shielded from it, wasn't palpable -- it just felt like a con inside, except reports kept coming in that this pro couldn't get in, people were being told to go home, folks were livid. All outside, all outside,. Inside everyone was smiles and business as usual. I gots mine, there's a party going on right here, we are the chosen ones. What a shame for the others, but isn't it exciting? For some, it was the excitement that something was actually happening in NYC comics-wise (well, not counting the vibe at the first MOCCA, but that's a different kettle of fish), a big show landed and it was wild and crazy and people couldn't get in. For others, the show landed hard on a lot of poor bastards standing in 23 degree weather with arctic windblasts hitting them and their kids as security guards and cops shouted and even people with tickets were being turned away. Holy fucked, Batman. It seemed that most folks who got in past the situational velvet ropes had a blast. The others just got blasted. If Michael Brown ever got to to organize a comic convention, it might be run something like NYCC.

I think Spurgeon nailed it on the Comics Reporter, the bad didn't mitigate the good, but the good was no excuse for the bad. To paraphrase. A fun show if you can stand the big shows, some can't, I complain but I still like them enough. But I never had survivor's guilt at a convention before. Walking past hundreds of freezing, unhappy people on Sunday with my Exhibitor badge held high made me feel very weird, screw the women and children, I've got a pass to a lifeboat, some indoor heating, and overpriced Nathan's hot dogs. No comic books for you, pal, just minor frostbite on the toes and a $32 parking bill plus other expenses for jack shit. Fucking harsh, this town.

Some particulars and more thoughts later, unless I get bored and decide to skip it. We got our DSL kit and are awaiting the line hook-up on Thursday, which will help things as far as updates go. Roadrunner is finally going bye-bye, thank goodness.

In the meantime, any NYCC stories/horror stories out there, anyone? Feel free.


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[info]frankeinstein
2006-02-28 01:27 am UTC (link)
Question: What's the kind of general reputation the Pittsburgh Comicon has? It used to be pretty great, as far as I was concerned (being a Pittsburgh kid with no real ability to travel to out-of-state comics shows), but has seriously slumped off, in terms of guests, in recent years and I can't really figure out a reason why.

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[info]evandorkin
2006-03-02 02:57 am UTC (link)
I don't know the general rep Pittsburgh has/had, but we enjoyed the show when we did it in connection with the Harvey Awards. A friendly, medium-size show, very much mainstream-oriented, save for the three years the Harveys were held there. There was an attempt to invigorate the show with a sort of alt/.indy "invasion", a slow poisoning, as I called it, but it didn't take. The first year the Harveys were held there things seemed to go gangbusters, that continued with frank Miller's appearance the second year, the third year was less spectacular as things settled in and the response to the non-superhero folks diminished without a heavy hitter like Frank, and with neil gaiman dropping out and the resulting flap about who knew what and told the fan when. Anyway, we stopped doing the show because without the Harveys and withour much new stuff out, and the attendees used to us, there was no real reason to go.

I do think Pittsburgh has stagnated in terms of their gust list, it seems to be the same twenty basic, if popular, people every year now, spearheaded by George Perez and a few others yera in, year out. ANy show neds new blood to get things going after a while, and for whatever reasons it seems Pittsburgh has had problems attracting some different people/draws as of late. Maybe Wizard World Phgilly hurt them, maybe the loaction hurts them (it's sort of in the middle of nowehere). I dunno. I would like to go back someday when we have given folks time to forget us and hopefully miss us, we did great the first year we attended, and in the coming years we figure we'll have time and some new projects out worth promoting.

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[info]frankeinstein
2006-03-02 03:04 am UTC (link)
Sounds good. I've pestered the organizers to contact different people, I usually got the response that if I could provide contact info, they'd contact them. I usually dug up contact info and nothing ever came of it. Even the cool little "unknown" things like Ookla the Mok performing didn't happen last year. It's irritating, but at the same time, it's kind of relieving because I'm away at college and unable to make it back to Pittsburgh for the cons due to the fact that it's always the weekend before finals. But still, if some of the names I respected more that I have seen there in years past were back again, I'd make the effort. I think they're pretty much just shooting themselves in the foot. Anyway, thanks for your insight into the situation.

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Saturday at the NYCC
(Anonymous)
2006-02-28 01:56 am UTC (link)
I posted a long letter on my experience on Saturday at the Comics Reporter site. There's some good info about upcoming projects from the Walkers. I walked around the convention a couple of times (mostly in aisles 200-500), stayed away from the Big Company booths and tried looking for you to buy some stuff. I didn't see you, so I can wait for MOCCA.
Peace,
Gary Esposito

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[info]ladysoleil
2006-02-28 02:17 am UTC (link)
I probably had the best time by not going, I got stuck working, but my job is sometimes borderline interesting and I got to spend the day listening to our customers tell us why they mostly like what we do, so it could have been far worse.

I really love the piece my husband bought from you- thank you! I think he meant to save it for my birthday but he couldn't wait, so I win. :)

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Horror Stories Indeed.
[info]98_lbs_of_rath
2006-02-28 02:43 am UTC (link)
Oh yes, damn that man with the megaphone! I was waiting in line for several thousand minutes on Saturday eating my $7.50 sandwich and observing the indoor pigeons when he suddenly takes form from the shadows and announces that no one is allowed in anymore.

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Furthermore, if you so desired a refund, you still had to wait in the impossibly long line.

I drove all the way from Maryland for an overpriced sandwich and an outside view of what was supposed to be my first comic-con. Lame.

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I wasn't anywhere near NYCC
[info]pentheus
2006-02-28 04:06 am UTC (link)
I was 3000 miles away, but I've been to lots of cons, and lots of different cons, and I gotta say, I'd be livid if I'd travelled a long way to get there, pre-registered even, and been turned away. I'd find a little place in my heart to plot the grisly death of everyone inside the con in some barnyard-animals-and-power-tools way that would make even Warren Ellis cringe. You're seeming pretty chill about it, considering.

I've also organized events for large numbers of people and I gotta say that at least the guy came out and told you rather than just letting rumors spread. I would have tried to arrange an online refund for those who pre-ordered, or to have their checks returned to them or something. If I were a really cool organizer, I would have tried to throw together panels, signings and whatnot in a nearby hotel for the people who couldn't get in and still have given them at least a partial discount for it. If I were only a little cool, I'd have given everyone who stood through the whole line on saturday a priority on sunday and hastily scheduled events that are better than the usual sunday stuff where everyone is too hungover to say witty things. Though cons are usually run by non-profits of some kind, they still owe something to their customers.

I've found that big, convention center comic cons--even San Diego--usually have a lot of the negative things that Evan talks about. There are opportunities to see a diversity of comics that I don't see in my local shop, but people like me who are just bumping about taking it all in can be left wondering what all the hooplah's about.

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Re: Horror Stories Indeed.
[info]evandorkin
2006-03-01 12:01 am UTC (link)
In this, the Age of Litigation, I say everyonbe puts together a small claims class action lawsuot for recouping gas, tolls, air tickets, parking, frozen children, gangrene, etc. If there is such a beast as a small claims class action lawsuit. I'm not the lawyer in the family, my sister is. And my brother-in law. And his brother. And my aunt. Sheesh. Jews. We got doctors too, but only through marriage.

Re: megaphone cretins, I can't complain about the ones outside working the lines. Would you want that job? In 23 degree weather? People suck on both sides of any line, especially when things get pissy. However, my beef is with the goofuses on megaphgones inside the convention halls, bad comedians, crappy carny talkers, used car salesmen-types who never shut-the-fuck-up. Behind them are the jerk-offs blasting the video monitors with the same bootleg movie clips all day. Ban these noise polluters at shows, please.

Sorry to hear about your bad day, btw. You should have tried to hit some NYC spots before heading home, comics-wise and otherwise. Or vandalize something to get the frustration out. That really bites.

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[info]yaytime
2006-02-28 03:52 am UTC (link)
Sounds like your experience was almost exactly like mine. I definitely felt bad for a lot of friends who had lots of trouble getting in and out. But as long as I stayed at my booth I seemed to avoid most of the chaos that people kept relaying to me. I lent my badge out a couple of times to help sneak people in but wasn't sure what else I could really do. AS convienent as a NYC show always seemed to me as a NYer I also had a feeling that anything at the Jacob Javits center would have some hurdles. Who ever hangs out on the west side highway unless they have to?

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nyc ccccc horror stories
[info]skeleteen
2006-02-28 06:22 am UTC (link)
I went to the Milla Johovovich Q and A. It was retty cringeworthy. The preview for Ultraviolet as shown and then Milla came out on a large stage and stood behind a podium and answered questions. The things people said to her ranged from,"Milla, girl. You have the most amazing body I have ever seen. What's your inspiration?" to "I really liked your music cd. What's your inspiration to make music and do you plan oto make more?" The questions didn't get smarter than "I want you to look at me and respond to something I say even though I have nothing to ask you." Eventually a little boy told her that she was the first celebrity that he had eevr met and she jumped off the stage to give him a hug. After that various creeps asked for hugs but she jokingly mentioned that the cutoff age is 12. As soon as she said that all parents in the room hurled their kids at the actress. Soon it was afull out Milla hugathon. All kinds of strangres with cameras were photographing the action star with anonymous kids. The Q and A seemed to end when it turned into creepy a hug mob. I ran aay and washed my hands obsessively.

Also there was that barbarian woman in the chain mail bikini.

On a plus note I got to meet Kevin Eastman whose comics and ancillary merchandise I loved when I was little. He was a really friendly guy and he drew me a pretty swell sektch of Raphael in my sketchbook.

The washed up celebrities were pretty funny. The other guy from Bosom Buddies? The girl who turns John Travolta down in Saturday Night Fever? Guh! So weird!

I spent the con wanderrign around and feeling confused. I really wanted to find some old independent comics at affordable prices but the only one hawking that stuff was the St. Marks Comics booth. Can't you buy most silver age comics off of Ebay?

I fondly remember the cons I used to go to at the New Yorker Hotel in a room that was as long as my entire railroad apartment. Looking back, they were the cutest. I got to talk Ben Edlund's ear off at 11 year olds and won all the door prizes since no one ever showed up.

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Re: nyc ccccc horror stories
[info]scabrendan
2006-02-28 02:19 pm UTC (link)
I can't get the gooseflesh out. You have scarred my psyche for the day.

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[info]quimper
2006-02-28 07:51 am UTC (link)
I had an adequate time with friends on Friday and Sunday, and was party to a lengthy and pleasant wrestling conversation at your booth on Saturday. I was, unfortunately, also one of the people who got stranded, leaving the building around 1pm to meet some friends outside (with my coat checked) and then being informed there was no way we could enter the building, not even to get to the coat check, without waiting on the gargantuan line. I think that was the point when the fire marshalls had shown up and no badges -- exhibitor, press, professional, Publisher of DC Comics -- seemed to get you anywhere.

I'd never been to a "big" convention before, nothing on the East Coast bigger than MOCCA really. So I have no idea if all the other minor annoyances like the basic impossibility of getting near any "big events" if you're not willing to commit half your day to waiting in line was unique to this thing or endemic to the big shows. But three hour freezing gap aside, it was a pretty good time; my only big complaint is that I did not get a picture of Fat Skeletor.

And any excuse for a sale at JHU is a mitzvah in my book. There should be conventions and 30th Anniversaries every month.

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[info]scabrendan
2006-02-28 02:22 pm UTC (link)
I got in Friday and Sunday, turned away Saturday. I didn't bother getting in line for a refund, figuring a 90-minute wait for a 5 or 10 dollar credit on my weekend pass would be a gyp.

I was glad the creep level was fairly low. Only a couple washed-up actors, the cosplay kids at least looked good (Rorschach and Power Girl were obviously labors of love).

Could've been better, could've been worse.

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[info]_corruption_
2006-02-28 02:41 pm UTC (link)
Ooooh, got pics of Power Girl and Rorschach? :D

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[info]subweird
2006-02-28 02:43 pm UTC (link)
It was the best of cons, it was the worst of cons.

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[info]_corruption_
2006-02-28 02:50 pm UTC (link)
I can't really complain about the con, since I got in for free with my New York Tokyo badge, but I didn't attend Saturday, so I think my view is unilluminated. Regardless, I think my biggest problem with the con lie with the utter lack of space(not getting the space of the ENTIRE convention center is stupid, stupid, STUPID) along with having signings in the same room as the dealers. I know it's typical NY fare, but you'd think people would know better from this.
Anyway, since I was working for New York Tokyo, I was working in the game room, which was incredibly spacious. We had various games displayed, including Guitar Hero. Anyone who hasn't played it, well, should.
I spent most of the time going outside to escort the other NYT staff in, all the while looking at the Sunday line growing. Not only was it surprising to see people wait on line since 8am, but the idea of people still attending after Saturday's fiasco amazed me. It proved how much in demand a decent NY con is.
Another highlight of the event was actually getting to shake hands with Aria Giovanni. God, she's even hotter IRL.

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[info]allnerdreview
2006-02-28 06:14 pm UTC (link)
Truly, Power Girl made it all worth it.

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[info]evandorkin
2006-03-01 12:10 am UTC (link)
All slobbering Power Girl posters are officially Eltingville members, junior class. Which means you don't have sadboy masturbation privelages and must stare at yourselves in the mirror for half and hour a day until you snap out of this Power Girl hoo-ha. Power Girl is chumpy, especially in this age of teenagers with breast implants. She's also fakey-fake, need I remind you? Now go cringe in the corner and bag some comics and we'll hear no more of this silly talk, even in jest. Sheesh.

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[info]chatterbox_dc
2006-02-28 09:29 pm UTC (link)
Hey Evan - good to chat with you even for a short bit. Hope you dig CRAZY PAPERS.

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[info]evandorkin
2006-03-01 12:06 am UTC (link)
Jim -

Likewise, thanks for the kind words. Enjoyed the Langridge "machismo guy" mini, had a chance to read some of the comics folks gave me while I was miserably sick last night for an hour. Luckily the John K. Commode memorial reading room was open the entire time I was launching stomach-debris out of my system. I think i just shut down after the con, it sounds like bullshit, but they can really wipe you out and wring your innards. And I didn't eat a ton of crap or drink anything beyond a single Bass Ale at an Irisn pub/retsaurant Saturday night. I'm a farily clean-livin kind of guy these days. Anyway, what the hell am I talking about? I like the mini. Very funny stuff. Haven't read Crazy Papers or the other mini yet. I needed some soothing Walt and Skeezix strips to relax me before trying to get back to sleep.

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[info]chatterbox_dc
2006-03-01 12:21 am UTC (link)
Glad you liked it! I had a purge of my own Sunday night, possibly the accumulation of a weekend's worth of subsisting on convention center sandwiches and Balance bars slipped to me by friends from "the outside world". I really need to get a better plan for future shows, but at the Javitz Center, there may not *be* a better plan. These shows do wear a body down - the big mainstream cons (as opposed to MoCCA or SPX) are like Christmas shopping at the mall for three straight 8-hour days. It was a good show for us, though, so no bitching from me.

My stomach was repaired as we stopped by my mom-in-law's house (you've "met" her - her facsimile is in the Machismo Monitor mini) in NJ on the way home Monday, and she fixed us up some good Vietnamese home-cookin'.

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(Anonymous)
2006-03-01 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Man, I have read so many stories about people getting some sort of nasty stomach bug after the con. One more reason to be glad I couldn't go, I guess. I sure do hate me some puking.

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[info]chatterbox_dc
2006-03-01 10:06 pm UTC (link)
You put that many people inside a room in NY in February and some kind of bug is sure to be passed around. I wouldn't say mine was a bug, but I did have a vial of hand sanitizer with me at the table. I think it's an essential for an exhibitor (or anyone at the show) unless you want to not shake people's hands.

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WonderCon
(Anonymous)
2006-02-28 10:50 pm UTC (link)
Hey, Evan!

Just to clarify, NYCC was not put on by the same people who put on WonderCon. WC is put on by Comic-Con International, the same nonprofit that does APE and San Diego.

Also, no one was turned away at WonderCon. There was a period of less than an hour on Saturday morning when the fire marshal wouldn't let any new people go into the Exhibit Hall. Those who wanted to go in could either wait in line (and got to go in whenever someone left the hall) or go to the programming rooms, where lots was happening. And people with exhibitor badges could come and go during that "no entrance" period. The con organizers addressed the problem quickly and Exhibit Hall traffic was moving normally in no time.

Jackie Estrada

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Re: WonderCon
[info]evandorkin
2006-02-28 11:54 pm UTC (link)
And hey, Jackie -

Thanks for the correction on Wonder Con not turning folks away, my misunderstanding. So, NYCC was even more f'd in that regard.

I never meant to imply that Wonder Con was organized by Reed, if that came across in my spiel it was accidental. I realized Comic-Con had taken it over, probably saving it in the process. The one Wonder Con I attended was a sad, moribund travesty, this past event looked good from the short "highlighted" guest list alone.

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(Anonymous)
2006-03-01 12:58 am UTC (link)
I opted out of Friday, which is a bummer since I heard that most of the good parties, smokin' chickies and free booze were to be had then. Saturday was a muvvavuggin' madhouse; I'm just glad some sneaky friends were able to get me in with an exhibitor pass (though I'd have liked them to tell me they could pull that off BEFORE I shelled out $35 I don't have for a weekend pass). Ran into my dawg Doug Rushkoff on the bus over; as it's his first con I kept checking in with him to solicit reactions. Wanted to go to the Milla panel, though those stories make me glad I didn't; I heart her so much that it would have killed me to feel like just another drooling idiot. I did manage to get into a documentary on underground, alternative and mini comics, talking about the scene; I may have mentioned you at some point, Evan (I was so exhausted by day's end that I don't recall too many details). Miraculously, my best friend of 19 years, who lives out of state and had not mentioned boo to me of attending, emerged from the crowd at one point, so I sported him around. When I got out of there I could hardly stand, so I punked out on all the parties, milled around JHU for a while, and went home.

Sunday it was somewhat more relaxed (and I didn't bother to show up until about 3). Chatted up Jim Mahfood on some really cheesey editorial changes Marvel made to his WHAT HUH? book, then fawned over Jon Bogdanove for his POWER PACK work. Had a great picture taken with the two poor saps in the ugly doll costumes near the JHU booth, and Jamie Tanner was kind enough to gift me his latest mini. Otherwise, I spent no money, and had a good time making faces at little Miss Emily Dyer, though she never showed me her Mussolini mug.

So, nothing horrendous befell me, got a bunch of silly promo schwag, saw a bunch of good people, and so on. Like many others, while I'm not partial to the huge stupid con model, and get far more psyched for MoCCA, I'm glad it happened and was enough of a success, such as it was, that it will likely become tradition. Let's just hope that for the 2007 edition they're smart enough to rent out more of the Javits so crunches like this don't repeat. Maybe by then you'll have something new to promote, Evan.

Ken A.

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Slave Labour's Disney titles -
(Anonymous)
2006-03-01 09:58 am UTC (link)
I just read the piece over at CBR about Dan Vados panel on Sunday & the 4 SLG Disney titles.

So purely out of curiosity:
In the vein of the 'Wonderland after Alice has left' and '7 dwarves go back to the mine once Snow White rides off' type-stories Vado mentioned is there anything Disney (but not really Disney) you'd like to take a stab at?

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Re: Slave Labour's Disney titles -
(Anonymous)
2006-03-01 09:06 pm UTC (link)
I do. But I gotta play that card close to my chest. I actually showed Vado art from that concept way back at Chicago '99, though I'm guessing that's long forgotten.

Isn't an "Alice the Wonderland after Alice has left" concept what drives "Hatter M" and the other "Looking Glass War" series? Or "Fables," for that matter? Brings to mind the Oingo Boingo song "Cinderella Undercover," but if you knew me that would be no surprise.

Ken A.

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[info]evandorkin
2006-03-02 02:50 am UTC (link)
I can't think of anything from Disney I'd really step up for. Maybe some traditional Donald Duck stories in the barks vein or the Mickey Mouse strips/comics where they did continutities and the Mouse wasn't a one-note, white-washed blank. I don't really think too hard about any work-for-hire possibilities, I don't have anything sititng around I'm hankering to do other than my own stuff. Taht being said, work-for-hire is what pays my bills for the most part, so there are properties I'd prefer to work on out there. Mostly kid stuff. But I have no teenage love left over for Tron, never watched Gargoyles, and don't sit around thinking up stuff for Alice or Batman to do. I almost wrote something for the Haunted Mansion book, but I didn't find the time, and I didn't have time to research the Mansion and the backstory, et al. I'd rather put the time into pages that don't make me much that I own.

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Re: Slave Labour's Disney titles -
(Anonymous)
2006-03-06 07:41 am UTC (link)
Speaking of the Haunted Mansion's backstory, have you heard about some of the revisions the new Pixar-helmed Imagineering is making to the ride in Disneyland?

http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al022806b.htm (about halfway down the page)

That and the other stuff Pixar's got in mind almost makes me want to go back to my old career goal of Imagineering. Almost. This unproductive comics pipe dream is so much more appropriately masochistic. Besides, the torment of what might have been with that and my career goal before THAT of cybernetics, a field that's finally taking off now that I'm incapable of remembering any higher math, really burns so bittersweetly.

Incidentally, I think Vado should put Jamie Smart on an SLG Pooh comic. WOOHOOHAHAHAHA...

Ken A.

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[info]mattlittle
2006-03-03 07:57 pm UTC (link)
Hey Evan, met you at the SLG booth on Saturday and wanted to say it was great to talk to you. Apologies for any poor attempts at humor or other cringe-worthy fanboy tripe that fell out from between my gums. Can't wait for the new stuff.

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